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Justin Sane
27 Aug 2023 2:44 am
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'Find me 11780 votes'

When you listen to the Mickey-Mouse, 4 minute long snip-together nonsense version of the telephone call concocted by MSNBC (I believe), 'Find me 11780 votes' indeed sounds a little suspicious. But it was supposed to. It was a cut, snipped, pasted and rearranged piece of drive-by propaganda, fabricated to produce exactly that effect. It's fine for entertainment purposes - but you couldn't possibly produce it in a courtroom unless it was a defamation case against the ***-hats who created it

If however, you listen to the full hour-long telephone discussion, which I believe also had some of Trump's legal team on the line, it becomes abundantly obvious that 'Find me 11780 votes' is not being stated euphemistically to mean 'create me 11780 votes' (nudge, nudge - wink, wink). In the conversation, Trump states multiple times that they're acutely aware that there are many more uncounted votes than are required for him to win, and that they have the receipts (so why can't you even find me the 11780 votes I need). From Trump's perspective, no votes have to be 'created', as they already exist - and that is abundantly obvious from Trump's words in the real conversation that actually took place, rather than the ****-up hatchet job created for low attention-span plebs. Words matter.

This is the version of the conversation that would have to be presented in a courtroom. The phrase would have to have been unequivocally used euphemistically to stand a chance of counting against Trump - and it unequivocally wasn't euphemistic in its use

There is nothing illegal about looking for votes, there is nothing illegal about asking a member of your party to look for votes so your party can win the election. There's nothing illegal with pressuring the person to get off their *** and do their damn job. There is nothing wrong with finding the votes, presenting them and overturning a falsely declared outcome of an election.

So that's one down.
 
 
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